一台比较少见的日产645折叠机 KIKO-3 780元

chenzhiyi

比较少见的牌子和机型
KIKO-THREE 645折叠相机，现在我只知道是日本产的，具体年代和背景都不甚了解，个人估计是50年代左右的机器。希望有了解的能够补正资料，镜头圈上型号为KIKO-SHUTTER-B。
机器总体品相一般，皮原来基本上没有了，我重新贴上了，手工一般。
机械部分经过简单修理，现在基本完好。
快门为三片式，速度为B、T、1/5-1/200S共8档，B、T门都有，其他快门速度根据打开后观察速度调节部分的运动来看还是有不同的，但个人感觉不是太准，快门叶片有点锈迹，但倒是不影响快门动作。
光圈叶片8片，从4.5-25到，不过因为阻挡的铜柱磨损了，光圈过了25仍可以继续调节，因此可以调到更小光圈甚至咬合，因此光圈叶片稍有点碰伤，但不影响光圈的开合。
镜头标示为Lucomar Anastigmat 1:4.5 f=75mm，编号No:30034，经检查应为柯克式镜头，镜片保存完好干净，无霉雾划痕等。
皮腔人造革材质，完好，没有漏光。
片仓有绣，压片板保存还可以，但有可能会划片，红窗有。
取景器为俯视和平视双重取景，平视取景器干净，俯视的反光镜有污渍，但景物还是蛮清晰的。
带一个不是这台机机的破皮套一个。
价格先试开高价780元包邮。

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[ 本帖最后由 chenzhiyi 于 2011-12-12 10:59 编辑 ]

gongchen5411

联动测距，俯视取景，不错啊，

chenzhiyi

原帖由 gongchen5411 于 2011-12-12 11:15 发表 [url=http://www.camgle.com/images/common/back.gif]http://www.camgle.com/images/common/back.gif[/url]
联动测距，俯视取景，不错啊，

不是联动测距的，平视的就是取景器。不知道为什么设计两个取景器。

chenzhiyi

现在关于此机器年代查到如下文字：
The Tsubasa Nettar (ツバサネッター) is a Japanese 4.5×6 folder announced by Kigawa in late 1940, and the Tsubasa Kiko Three (ツバサキコースリー) or Tsubasa Kiko III (ツバサキコーⅢ型) is a derivative made in 1941.
看来还是三十年代末四十年代初的机器，难道是日本鬼子带进来的？？？
网上全文：
The Tsubasa Kiko Three Description The Tsubasa Kiko Three is an evolution of the Tsubasa Nettar, with the same horizontal folding body. The advance knob at the bottom right was replaced by an advance key. There is a short top housing containing an eye level finder on the left and a brilliant finder on the right, and supporting an accessory shoe between the two. The body release is protruding from the top housing, to the right of the brilliant finder, and the folding bed release is in front of the accessory shoe. The back is hinged to the left, and the back latch consists of a long sliding bar. The red window is protected by a vertically sliding cover, and is placed at the top left or at the bottom right, depending on the particular example (see below).
The top housing has a large KSK logo engraved above the eye level finder, presumably for Kigawa Seimitsu Kōgaku. The company name and number 3 are embossed in the back leather: KIGAWA 3 KOGAKU. There is a logo embossed in the folding bed covering and at the front of the leather case, with the word KIKO diagonally written above a large number 3.
Advertisements and other documents The camera was advertised and featured in Japanese magazines dated 1941.[3] The March 1941 advertisement in Shashin Bunka, placed by Optochrom, lists two versions, one with a Lucomar f/4.5 lens and a Kiko shutter (T, B, 5–200), for ¥85, the other with an Erinar f/3.5 lens and a Kiko shutter (T, B, 1–200), for ¥130.[4] The camera name is given both as "Tsubasa Kiko Three" (ツバサキコースリー) and as "Tsubasa Kiko III" (ツバサキコーⅢ型), and the name Kiko Three is visible at the front of the camera's top housing. The use of an English word in a camera name is unusual in military-ruled Japan of the time. Some of the company's officers perhaps had anglophile feelings, or a special relationship with Great-Britain, and the sales company Optochrom was renamed Nichiei Shōkai soon after, meaning "Anglo-Japanese sales company". All this ended some months later, the distributing company was renamed again as Kikō Shōji, and the Kiko Three marking disappeared from the top housing (see below).
The official list of set prices compiled in October 1940 and published in January 1941 lists the "Tsubasa Kiko 3" (¥80), "Tsubasa Kiko IIIA" (¥100), "Tsubasa Kiko IIIB" (¥121) and "Tsubasa Kiko IIIC" (¥160).[5] According to their price categories, the three first models probably have an f/4.5 lens, and the IIIC probably has an f/3.5. The document also has a "Tsubasa Kiku" (¥43) and "Tsubasa Kiko II" (¥120) listed among 4.5×6 cameras, and a "Tsubasa Kiko I" (¥60), listed among 3×4 and 4×4 cameras.[6] These models are otherwise unknown, and their relationship to the Tsubasa Kiko Three is unclear.
The newer price list published in November 1941 has the "Tsubasa Kiku", "Tsubasa Kiko II", "Tsubasa Kiko III", "Tsubasa Kiko IIIA" and "Tsubasa Kiko IIIC".[7] All of them are attributed to Nichiei Shōkai, and the "Tsubasa Kiko IIIB" is no more listed.
Evolution Minor variations have been observed on actual examples of the Tsubasa Kiko Three. On the presumably early examples, the top housing is deeply recessed between the two finders, and is engraved Kiko Three at the front. This is the top housing pictured in the March 1941 advertisement cited above. Two surviving examples of this version have been observed.[8] One of them has a Lucomar 75/4.5 lens and a shutter giving 5–200 speeds engraved KIKO–SHUTTER at the bottom of the speed rim. The other is known to have the red window at the top left of the back.

[ 本帖最后由 chenzhiyi 于 2011-12-12 11:52 编辑 ]

gongchen5411

哦，才看清楚，还以为挺高规格呢，

chenzhiyi

原帖由 gongchen5411 于 2011-12-12 13:29 发表 [url=http://www.camgle.com/images/common/back.gif]http://www.camgle.com/images/common/back.gif[/url]
哦，才看清楚，还以为挺高规格呢，

第一眼的确很迷惑人，我看到的时候也一度以为是联动的，然后才发现居然是个不伦不类的双取景器。

chenzhiyi

顶一下呀顶一下

chenzhiyi

有点年头的少见日本机机继续卖啦

chenzhiyi

二战时期的日本老机机继续出

chenzhiyi

还能使用的老家伙，有历史没故事。